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Post by Cheezeman on Jan 21, 2009 3:42:55 GMT -5
Two Hero Combo Ranger and Summoner[/center] First, If you play as Ranger the right way on Normal, you can one-shot your side all the way up to (Level 8) Giant Wolf Spiders, which I don't recall any other Hero being able to do. Second, Summoner is needed to tank for her. Now you may be thinking "why not Holy Warrior or Paladin to tank for her?". Well, I've tried it: They both get stuck in a mass of creeps which is too much for the Ranger to handle and eventually the the tank will run out of potions... Summoner can tank and do damage, which is needed. Although not as much damage as Ranger. Ranger and Summoner can't directly support each other (like increasing the other's damage), but it doesn't matter since none of them are in need of support. Of course... Summoner needs a lot of mana, but the kills he gains from his summons should be enough to buy potions and mana items. Or he could ask Ranger for gold, which she will have plenty of. |
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Post by ingenting on Jan 21, 2009 10:46:58 GMT -5
First, If you play as Ranger the right way on Normal, you can one-shot your side all the way up to (Level 8) Giant Wolf Spiders, which I don't recall any other Hero being able to do.
Good Job and thx for sharing your combo with us!!
Would you mind sharing your build for ranger with us too? Cause I believe not many ppl know how to build a ranger to one-shot up to spider(I mean every wave, not just one with mark)This looks like a fun combo. However I think that even archer can solo one lane early game, the summoner's pets are not strong enough to handle his side alone. Not mention under offensive spell attacking.
It would be more helpful to others if you can share your build for summoner?!
Looking forward of your reply!! |
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Post by Cheezeman on Jan 21, 2009 13:53:46 GMT -5
First, If you play as Ranger the right way on Normal, you can one-shot your side all the way up to (Level 8) Giant Wolf Spiders, which I don't recall any other Hero being able to do.
Good Job and thx for sharing your combo with us!!
Would you mind sharing your build for ranger with us too? Cause I believe not many ppl know how to build a ranger to one-shot up to spider(I mean every wave, not just one with mark)This looks like a fun combo. However I think that even archer can solo one lane early game, the summoner's pets are not strong enough to handle his side alone. Not mention under offensive spell attacking.
It would be more helpful to others if you can share your build for summoner?!
Looking forward of your reply!!Haha don't worry about me and replying because I check this site and the map forum itself as many times as I check youtube... Hm... I have a build for Ranger located beneath but the guys on the forums don't seem to like it  mtteam.proboards70.com/index.cgi?board=strategy&action=display&thread=713&page=2Yes, this is a fun combo. You wanna try it with me? ;D No, summoner can't handle his side alone but - as I forgot to mention - his summons can tank. Since Ranger is so über as DPS she will keep them out of danger and while the Summoner's Bears and Darkrift is realoading, Ranger can always summon the wolves. Also the cooldown for the wolves isn't that long so she will be able to handle the time herself when there are no summons around. |
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Post by marx on Jan 21, 2009 15:29:23 GMT -5
... this combo crumbles under offense . Specially early stages of game, when summoner cant solo a lane.
Also this combo is time bombed . Because you have to win before zombies. (maybe earlier) as you cant do much after those.
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Post by ingenting on Jan 21, 2009 15:59:57 GMT -5
Haha don't worry about me and replying because I check this site and the map forum itself as many times as I check youtube... Hm... I have a build for Ranger located beneath but the guys on the forums don't seem to like it mtteam.proboards70.com/index.cgi?board=strategy&action=display&thread=713&page=2Yes, this is a fun combo. You wanna try it with me? ;D No, summoner can't handle his side alone but - as I forgot to mention - his summons can tank. Since Ranger is so über as DPS she will keep them out of danger and while the Summoner's Bears and Darkrift is realoading, Ranger can always summon the wolves. Also the cooldown for the wolves isn't that long so she will be able to handle the time herself when there are no summons around. thx for your invitation, but i am clumpsy with mouse and keyboard on gaming. typing is my strong suit. as marx mentioned, any experienced enfo players should kill u both at early game since summoner start to shine during mid game. ur rift can be purified and summoner's pets arent strong enough to tank/kill. if u lvl up bears first, they can tank but cant kill if u lvl up satyrs first, they can tank-->means they can be killed b4 their timed life ends. this make satyr cant kill either. yes i read ur post at mt, however mind integrating their suggestion and ur build at ranger's thread? I believe there are information not mentioned in the ranger's thread and I also believe it will be very helpful to the new enfo players  thx! |
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Post by Cheezeman on Jan 22, 2009 11:42:10 GMT -5
This combo was meant for single player, which I really forgot to mention  The thing is that this combo will make it easy for you to win, because you won't have to check the Hero that often, which is the same as insane offense. Yes, they are easy targets. But then again a good enfo player will easily aviod them with Elven Elite Boots + Wolves or Elven Elite Boots + Summons + Shear |
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Post by ingenting on Jan 22, 2009 12:23:28 GMT -5
This combo was meant for single player, which I really forgot to mention The thing is that this combo will make it easy for you to win, because you won't have to check the Hero that often, which is the same as insane offense. Yes, they are easy targets. But then again a good enfo player will easily aviod them with Elven Elite Boots + Wolves or Elven Elite Boots + Summons + Shear Hmm, did you mean this combo is for single team instead of player? |
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Post by marx on Jan 22, 2009 13:41:45 GMT -5
This combo was meant for single player, which I really forgot to mention The thing is that this combo will make it easy for you to win, because you won't have to check the Hero that often, which is the same as insane offense. Yes, they are easy targets. But then again a good enfo player will easily aviod them with Elven Elite Boots + Wolves or Elven Elite Boots + Summons + Shear Enfos was not meant to be played on single player. If you are making single player combos... Don't. That is not the essence of the game. This combo relies on rangers power to solo a lane. Ill just cripple you whenever I can. Welcome to the boards |
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Post by sackpuncher on Jan 22, 2009 15:15:36 GMT -5
Two Hero Combo Ranger and Summoner[/center] First, If you play as Ranger the right way on Normal, you can one-shot your side all the way up to (Level 8) Giant Wolf Spiders, which I don't recall any other Hero being able to do. [/quote] I got this far and stopped reading. Sniper can solo a lane until well after first bonus if you play him right. If he's getting pooled he can solo both lanes after he gets a 7.5k Agi ring and a level of his ulti until well after the bonus. Then I started reading again, what happens when the other team has a time mage? As Marx said cripple the ranger and there goes your ability to solo a lane. Sure you can use an AM but then what do you do during the AM's cooldown when time mage slows you, or if they dont have a time mage, you get crippled again. Plus with the AM cost increase coming in 1.88 that makes money an issue because Ranger will need a lot of gear to continue to kill fast enough. Also a money issue is the Summoner blowing through mana pots. Since he cant get too many mana related items or he risks getting zapped. You could take care of that problem with a str ring but then thats 40k that cant be spent on getting the ranger a Nimsha or Spine for dmg. |
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Post by Cheezeman on Jan 23, 2009 16:15:20 GMT -5
Maybe I should just remove this... What's so wrong about it? I found this when playing with my friend and it worked great. We owned 2v4... Yes, Enfo's is meant for multiplayer but since my friend - who refuses to buy this cheap game - plays through hamachi. We have a maximum of 4 players if we're lucky, so there's no room for multiplayer. Comon this isn't just being the best enfo player in the world! Have some fun!  This is a really awesome combo, try it ;D |
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